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material on the attack on the family are at www.ivorcatt.com/2202.htm and www.ivorcatt.com/2107.htm ] .. . Criminology in the new millennium Conference XII Rage, Gender and Violence In The Home A day conference held on 8th March 2002 In Westminster Chair: Esther Stanford (Society of Black Lawyers) Barbara Follett MP The importance of addressing issues around Violence In The Home Lizzy Gummer Home Office Government Response to Violence In The Home Professor Jill Radford Teesside University Legal Resonpse to Violence In The Home and the need for law review Hannana Siddiqui Southall Black Sisters State Responsibility for tackling Violence In The Home in the Black Community Julie Bindel University of East London The danger of Liberal Feminists’ response to violence against ethnic minority women (Did not appear because went abroad).l Jackie Holder Life Work in Progress Moving on from violence: “not just surviving but thriving” The Organiser Ruth Chigwada-Bailey, BSC., Msc., Dip.Crim. 98 Aldridge Avenue, Stanmore, Middlesex HA7 1DD UK Tel – Fax 020 8204 9587 www.Ruthchigwada-bailey.inuk.com email ruthchigwada@aol.com
Extracts; 1 14.58 Lorna
Brown 1 woman in 4 subjected to
DV. During a
pause, Ivor Catt asked a question. “What is the source for the 1 in 4 figure
please?” Answer;
“Why do you want to know?” Ivor; “
There are hundreds of professionals here. I need to know the source of the
facts that they go on. Answer.
“The figure is everywhere.” Ivor; “That
is no use. I need one or two sources that you rely on.” Answer.
“British Crime Survey.” Ivor; “What
year please?” Answer;
“1989.” A poodleman
then rose and said; “I am totally disgusted with the gentleman’s behaviour.
As a male, I am ashamed. The question was intimidating.” This led to general clapping. [Of the 200
attending, one in ten or one in twenty were men.] During this interchange and
for the rest of the conference, the atmosphere was extremely hostile. [The chairman said she would supply the
sources for the 1 in 4 statistic to the questioner [Ivor] before the end of
the conference. When Ivor approached her, she produced only the GLA
Stanko-driven booklet with “1 in 4” on its cover in large type. Ivor then
told her that that came from a cohort in Hackney of less than 150. The
chairman told Ivor that she had no other sources.] 2 All these women are implacable. Like the Marxists (they are latter-day Marxists, having replaced the word “Capitalism” with “Patriarchy”, but left the dogma as it was before) they have heavily infiltrated all our institutions, and will wreak massive damage during the next 15 years. No statistics, political or social developments will deflect them from their course. They are too far gone on their path to be able to change direction in any way. To change course would do too much damage to their burgeoning careers. Before the day began, I correctly predicted that
Erin Pizzey, who set up the first refuge for battered women (and who is cited
in law text books as her book “Scream quietly of the neightbours will hear”
caused reform in the law) would not be mentioned. I also predicted correctly that false allegations would not be mentioned Ivor Catt |
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10.04 Barbara Follett MP Married four times, not proud of it. First husband assassinated in South Africa 2sons 3 daughters aged 37 – 28 “I can give you the statistics, [but] we know them.” MP for Stevenage. Stevenage is homogeneous, white, working class. Moved from West Ham. White working class male C2 D E Lots of unemployment. Herts 6,000 cases of reported DV. Anecdotal. Doctor’s wife. Most middle class working women. Beaten up by doctor husband. Major problems. Women don’t want to sey when abused. Men don’t want to address problem. Women violence remarkably few. Mainly female victims. 47% female killed by partners. 8% men killed by partners. Look at 2 problems. 1 Make sure cases are reported. 2 Perpetrators dealt with in appropriate fashion. Men, women (biological) different reactions for violence. Men, fight not flight. Film “Reservoir Dogs” addresses something I don’t understand. Young men beat up each other in telephone boxes. Boys/Men intensely frustrated. Many violent men, men in jail, cannot read. Women teach men to read. Urge more men to become school governors, more involved in school. There is violence because we have incredibly frustrated men. I am a long term feminist. …….Anger management I am a fairly angry woman most of the time. Women who have been violently treated feel it is their fault. I want us to talk about relationship skills. We need to train men and women how to
manage relationships. [N.B. Nationalisation of the family. –
I.C.] We need Anger Management courses.
Relationship skills in schools. Elected MP in 1997. Worst Stevenage school had only one third
of children could read at age 11. Now
2/3 can read at age 11. I see Follett as the same as Sue
Slipman. She is implacable. Like Slipman, she will not be deterred by a continuing
escalation in the suicide rate among young men. Like Slipman, she will see
this as merely yong men’s failure to adjust to a loss of a position of
privilege. She will fully exploit the current PC radfem position in the
interests of her personal political and more general career. She will not
identify with her grandsons if she has any. 10.22 Lizzy Gummer.
Home Office. Role –
Co-ordinator re. DV. Secretary,
Informal Ministerial Group on DV. “The vast majority of my audience [here]
are practitioners.” Came to the job in July last year.
Provision for DV is piecemeal. Ministers’ Group; Health, Education, Lord
Chancellor, Solicitor General, Cabinet Office. 5 major items. Key things we need to do.
Question from Plymouth Male Perpetartor
Programme. Women want a community response to DV which goes beyond
criminalisation response. Desperate need for more gotv. Help. Lizzy Gummer; “Duluth Model.” We do not
have holistic approach (as in Duluth). We need to work on it. LCD investing in child contact centres.
Trying to get Treasury money to expand child contact centres. Question from Paul Darby/Garvey Probation Officer West Midlands. Answer; Need not more money. We need more
intelligent direction of resources. Question . Camden. Women’s Aid
50% of women coming forward are from black and ethnic women. 20 mins coffee break. 11.12 Professor Jill RadfordResearcher, Activist, Teacher. 1996 went to University of Teeside. Centre for Applied Socio-Legal Studies. -
from feminist prespective, with feminist thinking. Law remains
one of the strong bastions of patriarchy. Law made by an elite group of white
middle/upper class men. Difficult for
the law to include women’s experiences. Feminist
jurisprudence. Work within or without
the law? Jill Radford says work within to reform it. Published
2000 Sexual Offences Review. (Link sexual violence to domestic violence.) At the end
of the 90’s I was asked by Europe to review law re DV in each European
country. Need to
review the law on DV to have more effective, coherent law. New
legislation. Most interesting. Cyprus
is the most progressive. Jill Radford
likes the new Cyprus law “Cypriot
Penal Code”. (JR is a member of a mulri-agency forum.) Call for
our DV laws to be reviewed and become mixed civil/criminal. JR
….”involved in research and statistics keeping….” [!] JR teaches
and educates police officers. The Judiciary never attend. 14
different definitions of DV in govt. documents; police, Dept. of Health,
LCD,………. Access to
child. 18 children per year die as a
result of chil;d access in problematic cases. Death of
partner while woman defending herself against DV. Question
from Mick Peasegood, Help, Leeds. JR
“…. Impressed by what I have heard of (events) in Leeds.” “…. More holistic
law …. Which I would like to see ….” Kilby Oxford DV CPS I work with Lizzy
Gummer in hear from Harriet Harman …. New idea is
for District Judge …. Issue either criminal or civil restraining order. Need a DV
review like Sexual Offences review. Question….
“Please include the invisible lesbian”.
[Only mention of lesbians all day.] Wopmen’s
Crisis Centre. 25% of somen
questioned said their partner had raped them. Question
from Ted Falter of “Alcohol Concern”
One quarter of households suffer from DV. 40% of DV has heavy alcohol content. Substance abuse is a big factor. Alcohol abuse is a very heavy factor in
DV. JR:
“Alcohol is implicated in DV. Injuries then more severe. Sober men are more
controlled in their use of violence.” Question:
Deaf/Blind sufferers. Deaf/Blind
Disabled. Chris Fioy,
Basingstoke; Deaf man got off because he was deaf. 11.58 Hannana SiddiquiSouthall
Black Sisters Event today
is to mark International Women’s Day. Women
across the world work to enhance …. Their struggle against oppression. Anti-Racist
movement fails to take on issues around gender. “Forced
marriage is part of DV.” “Dalawalia
killed a violent man.” State’s
responsibility in addressing issues of DV towards black women. “Asian
women 2 to 3 times more likely to commit suicide.” Politicians
listen to leaders of Asian communities. Leaders are men, patriarchal. Blunkett –
forced marriage - female genital
mutilation. Blunkett is
using a racist approach to minority community problems. Arranged
marriages can be based on consent.
Not all arranged marriages are forced marriages. Speaker
wants the state to interfere in minority community problems. State
afraid of being accused or racism when it interferes …. State ignores needs
of black women. Michael
Brian (pre-Blunkett) said : “Cultural sensitivity is no excuse for moral
blindness.” Black
women; double discrimination – racism, sexism. Re DV,
“[Minority] Community Leaders …. Lip service ….” Want mediation …. Keep family together. ?1991? ….
Vanduna Patel …? Killed by her
husband [If]
Immigrant women experience DV …..
[can they] stay in country? …..Mental
abuse….. …..emotional
abuse……… economic exploitation…… Women who
kill violent men …. Sarah Thornton ….. Zorah Shah (12 years of sexual
violence, economic violence, by her pimp.
His brother was a leading figure in the mosque. Sarah
Thornton told speaker shameful to admit a career of prostitution, violence ….
Court said (since_ she was a prostitute ……. 12.28
Hannana ends. Question by
DV survivor; “No organisation is looking at DV of blacks.” Black means
Africa – UK Ind Afr –
Caribbean – UK 20 refuges
for Asian women; only 2 refuges for black women. Question Rebecca Boinham, Birmingham Law Student;
DV taboo subject in black community.
No research. Nothing. [Much
resentment that there are refuges for Asian women, but not for black
women. The Asians replied that Asians
had take the trouble to set them up. 14.10
[Julie Bindel did not appear; she was abroad. Replaced by; Harriet WistrichCampaigner
and Lawyer. Founder Member, “Justice
for Women.” Works for
women who have killed theiur partners. Subject;
“Battered Women;’s Syndrome.” Use of this
syndrome in defence of a killer had Advantage and Disadvantage. HW
represented Sarah Thornton Emma
Humphries forced into prostitution Amelia
Rossiter Killed her husband of many
years Alawalia Diana
Butler Working class Yorkshire
woman. Joannah
Cole Ovberstayer from Jamaica Christine
de Vainey Jane
Andrews White working class Dresser for Duchess of York Josephine
Smith Killed husband after years of violence…8years in prison. Hope everyone will support her appeal. Now
to Court of Appeal. DV takes
all sorts of different forms. Very
often very little physical evidence. Emotional,
psychological, financial, controlling DV all have same debilitating effects. Leads to
Battered Women’s Syndrome Concept developed by Leonora Walker “cycle of violence” “learned helplessness” (LH) jury has difficulty with LH followed by
fighting back. Leonora
Walker was expert defence witness in OJ Simpson case (in the end did not give
evidence) “….[wrong
to] focus on the pathology of the woman rather than on the perpetrator of the
violence.” …….Shah.
Forced into prostitution….. “…. [my
clients] downplay mental …. Terrified of being sent off to a mental hospital
….” “…. We must
focus much more on the pathology of the abuser rather than on [the woman] ….” Provocation
is …. Build up …. Cumulative …. ….
Josephine Smith …. [please] join campaign …. Suffered extreme abuse ….
Primarily sexual abuse …. Question by
Susan Ash, Laura Kelly Foundation; “Courts seem to deal much more harshly
with women who commit crimes.” Question by
11 year old girl; “Rape is a step worse than murder.” [Later speakers disagreed.] Supporting
a particular woman is a political act to bring attention to DV against women. Question.
Duluth programme? -
Pilot scheme run by Probation. Duluth is a different way
of understanding DV, better than Battered Woman Syndrome. Question.
Paul Darby, Westminster Probation.
?More women judges? More
urgent, training, understanding.
“Some of the worst judges can be women judges.” Question.
Julia Rose, West Midlands Prison for Women. Speaker
recommends; Dr Fiona Mason. Good re.
St. Andrews Hospital Northampton. 14.52 (Miss) Poppy Jakra. 17 years old. Young Asian female. Discrmination, violence. Father manual labourer in bus garage for
15 years. Still called “Paki”; - led to Alienation, humiliation. (Hint that
father was violent.) Ruling
classes, people in positions of power. Racist
propaganda must be banned. Mobile
phone robberies/young black males. History
books conceal facts in history. What options
are there open to a yong person like myself? “…. Years
of trauma for my mother ….” “…. Sight
of blood and bruising….” 14.58 Lorna
Brown 1 woman in 4 subjected to
DV. During a pause,
Ivor Catt asked a question. “What is the source for the 1 in 4 figure
please?” Answer;
“Why do you want to know?” Ivor; “
There are hundreds of professionals here. I need to know the source of the
facts that they go on. Answer.
“The figure is everywhere.” Ivor; “That
is no use. I need one or two sources that you rely on.” Answer.
“British Crime Survey.” Ivor; “What
year please?” Answer;
“1989.” A poodleman
then rose and said; “I am totally disgusted with the gentleman’s behaviour.
As a male, I am ashamed. The question was intimidating.” This led to general clapping. [Of the 200
attending, one in ten or one in twenty were men.] During this interchange and
for the rest of the conference, the atmosphere was extremely hostile. [The
chairman said she would supply the sources for the 1 in 4 statistic to the
questioner [Ivor] before the end of the conference. When Ivor approached her,
she produced only the GLA Stanko-driven booklet with “1 in 4” on its cover in
large type. Ivor then told her that that came from a cohort in Hackney of
less than 150. The chairman told Ivor that she had no other sources.] “Must not
talk about single families. Then an old lady said her daughter taught a class
of 35, 20 from a single parent. The 20 were completely out of control.” She
[a bit dotty, as I found later] said that children needed two parents. She
was more or less hissed down. 15.56 Jackoe HolderLife work
in progress. Black
woman. Moving from
violence.; “not just surviving but thriving”. Wrote a
book; sole purpose …. My own personal experiences of DV 2 women die
every week as a result of DV. 1999
54,000 sought DV refuge. Personal
story. Age 17 yrs relationship (for 5
years) with man 25 violence, emotional abuse, physical, mental abuse. …. Working in a prison …. ….punch in stomach…… …ribs hurt…. I escaped
to university, but he followed me to Birmingham. Women leave
those relationships with lots of baggage.
5-10 years later, another relationship. Flying across room. My daughter went flying the other way. Working in
a women’s unit. Fund more
rites of passage for women. Ask men
what they need. Question
from Carol Hazelwood Morris Family CWO
Leicester. Listen to what the children say. My daughter has a very
close and loving relationship with her father. Children often not given the
chance to express their opinions. There is no right way. What about implacably hostile
mother/resident parent? Numerous occasions (myself and my colleagues.) Contact centre. 16.37 Harriet HarmanSolicitor
General. Born 1950
London York Univ.
Politics, Law. …..
beginning to be quite a lot of work on DV. Ovdrview. Govt thinks Dv should be a higher
priority. Govt is concerned about
violent crime. One quarter is DV,
Must include this concern. One quarter
to one third of murders are DV murders. Govt –
tackle issues of concern to women. DV is a big issue for women. Concern re
families with children. Children
are always harmed by Dv situation. Oncern:
make criminal justice system work better. Highest % of failed cases are DV
cases. When
pregnant, women are then often willing to come forward re DV. CPS fake
cases through courts…. [we] have set up a new network of DV specialists.
National network. Handle cases and
support colleagues prosecutions. Nearly all
DV victims are women. Many are ethnic
minority. We will
launch new Guidance in November; “Prosecuting in DV”. Victim of
Public prosecutes? Prosecutor
case Amnadee from Nottingham. Victim (in hospital) did not want to prosecute,
but it was prosecuted by prosecutor Kim from Leeds. I have my
own DV forum in Southwark. 4 DV
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All these women are
implacable. Like the Marxists (they are latter-day Marxists, having replaced
the word “Capitalism” with “Patriarchy”, but left the dogma as it was before)
they have heavily infiltrated all our institutions, and will wreak massive
damage during the next 15 years. No statistics, political or social
developments will deflect them from their course. They are too far gone on
their path to be able to change direction in any way. To change course would
do too much damage to their burgeoning careers. Before the day began, I
correctly predicted that Erin Pizzey, who set up the first refuge for battered
women (and who is cited in law text books as her book “Scream quietly of the
neightbours will hear” caused reform in the law) would not be mentioned. I also predicted correctly that false
allegations would not be mentioned. [sep02. Further associated material on the attack on the family are at www.ivorcatt.com/2202.htm and www.ivorcatt.com/2107.htm ] .. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Clare Dyer interview. http://www.guardian.co.uk/gender/story/0,11812,747675,00.html It's good to be back …. …. The law officers superintend or oversee the CPS,
though the service is independent. Harman's particular baby is the service's
part in the government crackdown on domestic violence. In November she
enlisted Cherie Booth QC - who said she had cut her teeth in her 20s
defending abused women in court - to help launch a new domestic violence code
for crown prosecutors. Fifty percent of domestic violence cases are dropped
before they get to court, and in nearly four out of five of those cases the
woman decides to drop her complaint - often for fear of retaliation. Under the new code cases now go ahead regardless,
if prosecution is deemed to be in the public interest. The woman can be
compelled to come to court by a witness summons, or the case can go ahead
without her on the basis of other evidence. Cases are prosecuted by a new
team of specialist domestic-violence prosecutors, many of them women. Last week Harman hosted a conference for them,
followed by a reception at 11 Downing Street attended by Gordon Brown and
David Blunkett. A circuit judge who was there remarked: "She's showing
real determination to tackle the issue. Solicitor general tends to be a
non-job but she's making a real job of it." Harman wants to make sure
not only that men who beat up their partners are brought to court, but when
they are convicted they go to jail. She and the attorney general have power
to refer cases to the court of appeal when the trial judge is thought to have
sentenced too leniently. …. …. Allied
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